SpiderBot Delta 3D Printer

Tiko 3D Deltaprinter on Kickstarter

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Monday, March 30 2015, 07:17 PM
Just pledge $99 on kickstarter for a Deltaprinter.
Ridiculous price I believe!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1056329519/tiko-the-unibody-3d-printer
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      Tuesday, March 31 2015, 12:46 PM - #permalink
      You can not compare the Tiko with a Spiderbot, but for me it's great to demonstrate 3D printing in a retirement house as an volunteer!
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      Tuesday, April 21 2015, 02:00 PM - #permalink
      Its looks impressive, the price is basically unbelievable, but then again, if you have ever taken apart a "paper" printer there is a surprisingly large amount of components in there (they do undersell the printers to make it back with the ink cartridges).

      The unibody idea is a good one, but I wonder if they can get the tolerances and rigidity required. Time will tell. :-)
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      Wednesday, April 22 2015, 06:26 PM - #permalink
      When things are cheap there are three, no four possibilities:

      • They decided to earn less money per unit, beacuse they expect higher volume.
      • The parts are cheaper, and the assembly is shoddier.
      • They have made cost saving by better design - both in number of parts and complexity of assembly.
      • They get more money from additions/consumables - think ink cartridges.
      • (OK there is a fifth - they cheat or they do not pay taxes or something else like that)

      Having looked at the pictures, I think it is mostly cost saving. Consider the body. One plastic extrusion. Not even a mold, but a continous extrusion. They have even minimised the amount the plastic by making it triangual rather than circular. Expensive to setup but the part is very cheap afterwards. The Spiderbot has aluminium extrusions for the tracks (with threaded holes) and a printed large accrylic(?) sheet. and plenty of nuts and bolts. Tiko is also clearly designed for mass production (like using a special plastic extrusion shape, custom PCB/electronics with all SMD, the motors with integral belt drive... ) to drive the unit price down. And looking at the "pre sale rush" (officially known as pledges :) ) they have all the volume they need up front to negotiate production prices.

      On the potentially bad side: It is NOT Opensource. It may or may not be patent protected. It certainly is badly suited to any modification (and will likely invalidate any and all guarantees). The slicer software is via the Web only (?!). There may be some additional revenue for basic free slicing and cost extra advanced slicing (I am guessing). I am unsure how the filament load works (the GIF picture indicates somethng automatic) and how limiting the "standard spool" is. Lastly we know nothing of quality and reliability.

      I wont bother doing a detailled comparison Spiderbot-Tiko of buildvolume, layer accuracy etc, because a Spiderbot is what I have. :D Besides - no independet reviewer has verified its performnce and specs. The early birds got a 6 month delivery time, new buyers wait 12 months(!) and it is pay-at-order. There probably is a better/cheaper model by then. I notice there are over 2000 comments. Presumably if I read all of them, some of the points will be clear.

      I like having assembled my Spiderbot, being able to tinker with it and extend it. But - to be honest - the 12-to-1 price difference does send a twinge in my wallet.
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      Thursday, April 23 2015, 12:12 PM - #permalink
      Your missing the point, for me it is great to demonstrate a 3d printer. It's obviously not a Spiderbot but I don't mind that, it's about the principle of 3d printing that I buyed it.
      But yes, a lot of backers new in 3d printing who did buy the Tiko, will be disappointed in the possibilities and printing results I think.
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      Friday, May 06 2016, 12:28 PM - #permalink
      Yes agreed. I think it is not a spiderboat. But it is desired for mass production.Same is true for 3D printing. So ultimately its possible to work as a 3d printer.But one thing should be kept in mind SLM technology should be at forefront
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